Questions Remain After Sudden Termination of English Professor
Christopher Trogan was let go mid-semester after mixing up the names of two Black students
November 29, 2021
CORRECTION: A previous version of this article misstated that Eva Badowska is the Dean of the Graduate School of Arts and Sciences. As of Nov. 30, 2021, this article has been updated to reflect the fact that Eva Badowska is actually the Dean of the Faculty of Arts and Sciences and Associate VP, Arts and Sciences.
A former lecturer in the English Department, Christopher Trogan, was terminated by Fordham on Oct. 25 after a series of communications with students that stemmed from an incident where he confused the names of two Black students.
The name mix-up occurred on Sept. 24 in a Composition II class taught by Trogan.
The two students whose names were mixed up sent Trogan an email after class expressing that they felt disheartened and disrespected, and believed the mistake occurred because they were both Black.
Later that day, Trogan sent an email addressing the situation to all of his students in both sections of his Composition II course.
“I did not feel heard because every time he (misnamed me) I would tell him, and it just seemed like he would brush it off or that he did not care.”anonymous student
He referred to the name mix-up as an “innocent mistake” and said he had a “confused brain” because the two students arrived late while he was reading the work of another student at the lecturer podium.
“The offended student assumed my mistake was because I confused that student with another Black student,” Trogan said in his email to students. “I have done my best to validate and reassure the offended student that I made a simple, human, error. It has nothing to do with race.”
One of the first-year students who was involved in the name mix-up incident said their experience in Trogan’s class prior to the incident was not great. The student, who asked to remain anonymous due to privacy concerns, told The Observer that Trogan repeatedly got their name incorrect over the course of four classes.
Trogan encouraged students to relay any complaints to Dean of Fordham College at Lincoln Center (FCLC) Laura Auricchio, English Department Chair Mary Bly and other administrators.
“I felt really disrespected,” they said. “I did not feel heard because every time he (misnamed me) I would tell him, and it just seemed like he would brush it off or that he did not care.”
Trogan encouraged students to relay any complaints to Dean of Fordham College at Lincoln Center (FCLC) Laura Auricchio, English Department Chair Mary Bly and other administrators.
Chantel Sims, FCLC ’25, was the other student involved in the name mix-up. Sims, who is also a member of The Observer’s reporting team, said she did not report Trogan to the administration so she felt like a lot of his action and communication seemed unnecessary.
Trogan concluded the email by stating he is willing to give up his position if the students feel like they have been discriminated against.
“It seemed a little excessive, like all you needed to do was say sorry and it would have been fine,” she said. “We were not actually that upset about him mixing up our names. It was more so the random things he would throw into the response.”
In the email to students, Trogan assured students the course was “centered specifically and explicitly around issues of justice, equality, and inclusion,” and that he has devoted his “entire life” to these issues — describing his dedication to racial justice throughout his career in depth.
Sims said the section of the email that listed his credentials and “everything he has done for minorities” gave her the impression of a white savior complex. The other first-year student interviewed by The Observer agreed with this assessment.
Trogan said both his physical and psychological health declined during the weeks between the Zoom meeting and his termination.
Trogan concluded the email by stating he is willing to give up his position if the students feel like they have been discriminated against.
“Depending on your response to the officials above, I may — or may not — be your professor in class next week. It’s all up to you,” he wrote.
On Sept. 26 — two days after the incident — Eva Badowska, dean of the faculty of arts and sciences and associate vice president, arts and sciences, notified Trogan that he was placed on immediate suspension with pay and benefits and that his actions were under investigation by the university. She gave him an order to not contact any Fordham student or he would face immediate termination. Part of the suspension included barring his access to Fordham’s electronic systems — including email.
The anonymous first-year student did not think Fordham would respond so swiftly to the incident.
Badowska held a Zoom conversation with Trogan on Oct. 5. He was joined by a union representative after he employed his Weingarten Rights, which guarantees union representation during investigatory interviews.
Trogan said both his physical and psychological health declined during the weeks between the Zoom meeting and his termination, which was delivered on Oct. 25 by Badowska.
“I was never informed of the charges against me, nor of the nature of the investigation of which I was the subject,” Trogan said in an email to his former students on Oct. 29 after the termination. “I was kept completely in the dark.”
The termination was effective immediately and cut off Trogan’s salary, health benefits, life insurance and retirement fund.
Pradanya Subramanyan, FCLC ’25, was in the other section of Trogan’s Composition II class and said she was disappointed in how Fordham handled his termination.
She said she thought Trogan was a “really great professor,” so when she received the email about the name mix-up on Sept. 24 and later learned about his suspension and then termination, she was in disbelief.
Foley added that the union could not file a grievance on behalf of Trogan because he is a recent hire.
“I was really shocked because it did not seem like that big of a deal to me,” Subramanyan said. “I did not think he did anything wrong.”
The anonymous first-year student did not think Fordham would respond so swiftly to the incident. “I was surprised that they just got rid of him,” they said.
According to Trogan, in Badowska’s letter of termination, she did not focus on the original name mix-up. The email he sent to his students on Sept. 24 was the catalyst for termination. He also said Badowska ruled that he had not exhibited “proper development” from the Oct. 5 conversation, which also contributed to the decision.
“There may not be much that he can do.”Jeffrey Hirsch, professor of labor and employment law at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill School of Law
“Badowska may have carried things out legally, but definitely not morally and certainly not justly,” Trogan told The Observer.
Subramanyan said she understands that the mass email may not have been necessary, but she did not think it was worthy of punishment.
Ashar Foley, chief steward of Fordham Faculty United (FFU) and professor of communications and media studies, said because Trogan stated that he may take private action against the university, FFU cannot make comments regarding his case.
The faculty member, who asked for anonymity due to the sensitive nature of the topic, added that Trogan is “reactive, not reflective.”
Foley added that the union could not file a grievance on behalf of Trogan because he is a recent hire. In a collective bargaining agreement, it was agreed that to be considered full-time faculty and receive the full benefits of the contract, an instructor must teach two full academic years as full-time faculty or one full academic year if they served as an adjunct professor in eight courses prior to the switch.
On Sept. 1, 2021, Trogan began this transition by committing to a one-year lectureship, departing from his role as an adjunct instructor. He lost his union full status because of the categorical switch.
“The eight semesters I had taught as an adjunct were erased,” Trogan said.
Foley said this probationary period for new hires is standard with union contracts.
Trogan emailed a nine-page letter to all of his 80 former students and advisees explaining his experience through the termination process.
“Prior to unionization and our first contract, contingent faculty (adjuncts and lecturers) were always considered in an ‘at-will’ relationship to the University and could be let go at any time without explanation, presumption of reappointment, or recourse to the grievance process, no matter how long or how many classes they had taught at Fordham,” Foley said.
If lecturers are part of at-will employment, they can be fired for “any reason or no reason at all,” according to Jeffrey Hirsch, a researcher and professor of labor and employment law at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill School of Law.
In reference to Trogan’s case, Hirsch told The Observer that having at-will status versus being covered by a union’s just cause protections can make a big difference.
The letter also stated that since Trogan no longer has an academic relationship with his former students and advisees, he should refrain from communicating with them in any form.
“He’s sort of falling into this union coverage gap — which frankly most private-sector employees are always in — and it’s hurting his ability to challenge it,” Hirsch said. “There may not be much that he can do.”
Trogan told The Observer that he believes he should be paid his remaining salary for the academic year, and that his benefits should be immediately reinstated to rectify his termination. He also demanded that the Office of Human Resources expunge the incident from his record and stated Badowska should take questions openly from the Fordham community on his termination.
“If any student would like to help me achieve some justice now that my name is mud and my reputation has been ruined, they could insist that Badowska carry out the above three actions at a bare minimum,” Trogan said.
Bob Howe, assistant vice president of communications, said although he understands students have questions regarding Trogan’s termination, Fordham cannot comment on individual cases.
A faculty member at Fordham who has had interactions with Trogan on more than one occasion described him as a person who is “very good at stirring up energy around him but not very mindful of the consequences, for himself or others.” The faculty member, who asked for anonymity due to the sensitive nature of the topic, added that Trogan is “reactive, not reflective.”
Trogan shared a letter with The Observer that he received on Nov. 1 from John Carroll, associate vice president of Public Safety, directing him to not come onto university property based on his terminated employee status and that he could have trespassing charges filed against him if this directive was ignored. The letter also stated that since Trogan no longer has an academic relationship with his former students and advisees, he should refrain from communicating with them in any form.
Prior to receiving the notice from Public Safety, Trogan emailed a nine-page letter to all of his 80 former students and advisees explaining his experience through the termination process.
“Their team of lawyers may now even come after me — even after my termination — with threats and charges against me personally and professionally for sending this to you, but I will deal with those when they come,” he wrote in the Oct. 29 communication to his former students.
Bob Howe, assistant vice president of communications, said although he understands students have questions regarding Trogan’s termination, Fordham cannot comment on individual cases.
“The University takes personnel matters very seriously, reviews decisions on multiple levels, and addresses such matters confidentially in accord with University policies,” he said.
Samantha Stone, a lecturer of English, will teach Trogan’s two Composition II sections for the remainder of the semester. Sims said Stone is continuing to teach according to the syllabus established by Trogan, so the transition has not been difficult.
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Dan Stroup • Jan 12, 2022 at 4:37 pm
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anomic_aphasia#Definition
I can’t even keep my grandkids names straight. Last week got my sisters name wrong
Rollie • Dec 31, 2021 at 9:59 am
I really miss reading well-written articles. This article jumps all over the place. Colleges need to focus on basic reading and writing skills instead of programming kids.
SLG • Jan 2, 2022 at 9:15 pm
Agree. But universities are busy dismantling humanities departments as we speak because they’re viewed as not lucrative enough, so don’t expect students’ reading and writing skills to improve in the future.
The last semester I taught college English, I gave a student a D on an assignment because he couldn’t be bothered to run a basic spell/grammar check. There were multiple errors in each paragraph throughout the entire (four-page) paper–errors that were immediately obvious at a cursory glance. I gave him the option to rewrite the paper for a better grade that would replace the D.
Rather than take the option, he complained all over social media and to the department chair that things like grammar and spelling were “pointless” and a “distraction” from his ideas. Though the department chair backed me and felt my grading was more than fair, I decided that the entire ordeal was above my paygrade and left teaching for higher-paying work in the private sector.
More and more college lecturers and professors are leaving these days for the same reasons: if you have standards at all, you can expect to be sandbagged by students. For such low pay, it’s not worth it.
Anthony Maddox • Dec 16, 2021 at 10:37 pm
This is in my opinion as a BLK MAN: is an response of over sensitiveness on the part of the students.
My reason for believing the Professor made an honest mistake is because Albert Einstein was said to have been very absent minded or confused minded as detailed in the lecturers response to the student’s complaint.
Mr. Einstein has been said to forgot train tickets for his rides on more than one occasion not to mention he was also said to have a very unorganized desk or filing system.
Ppl have no propensity towards forgiveness. Which the professor seemed to implore from these individuals with the fractured emotions.
The Professor apologized and these two students feel that their names should take some prominent position in the Professors mind over all the other students he encounters over the many classes he teaches during the course of the month.
I personally would have taken issue with the Professor only if my grades were confused with the other student’s.
I can imagine that the Professor objected to their tardiness as most instructor’s dont allow students in the class after the start bell.
Did these student’s decide to wage a vindictive assault on this staff member’s integrity because he may have chided them openly for their lateness,
considering they obviously were emotional enough to play the race card?
In my mind this is a case of misperception on the student part of this man’s intentions as he mentioned in his reply to their complaint in the initial email these two submitted.
Hurt feelings can skew judgement & getting even has always been the best balancer of the scale for many PPL throughout history.
I am sure BARING false witness overshadows this incident as well.
Marina • Dec 15, 2021 at 1:29 pm
If the two students had been on time for the class, nothing would have happened.
Christine Mwenyo • Dec 15, 2021 at 10:19 am
The professor should not have been fired for mixing up the names of two black students. That’s so extreme and sad that the professor’s lost his livelihood for a mistake which he apologized for. I am black, and I mix up other people’s names all the time. People mix up my name all the time and it doesn’t bother me. I have bigger challenges than worrying about people mixing up my name. The students were too sensitive to say the least
Nachum • Dec 14, 2021 at 5:35 am
It’s actually a documented phenomenon that people have trouble distinguishing members of different races. It has nothing to do with racism, is true across races, and apparently something to do with the fact that members of some races use different cues (hair vs. eyes, or things like that) to recognize other people. (There’s also the suggestion that white people do, indeed, have more differences in appearance among them, but that’s apparently not really true.)
But “You all look alike” has become such a codeword for “racist”- and, of course, the belief that there can be absolutely no difference between races, not even obvious things like skin color- that we can’t even cite this as a defense any more. Ah well.
(Sammy Davis Jr. used to make this joke when he would “mix up” Frank and Dean: “Y’all look alike to me!” But he wasn’t entirely wrong.)
Anne • Dec 13, 2021 at 8:43 pm
I was one of the professor’s students from a different section and feel compelled to offer missing insights based on the emails he sent us as it’s the right thing to do and I’m not afraid of the pressures by Fordham, not to. First of all, the student elevated things when this person copied one of the deans on their initial complaint email to the professor. He then sent us an email, presumably the one he got fired for, to address the situation as a good teachable moment since our class is centered around social justice issues. We were then surprised and confused when he didn’t show up to our next class but instead greeted by the school’s psychological services. Come to find out a month later that he had been suspended.
The 9-page email that’s been reported was sent after he was terminated in October so I don’t believe that would have been a factor in his firing. In it, he apologized, defended his character, and outlined for us what happened since we had no clue what had went on, hence how I know the above. Was it long? Yes. But I don’t believe it justified his removal.
This is my first semester in college and what an impression this is making. I can’t speak for the class that had the incident, but I enjoyed the discussions we had in our section in the few classes we did share with him. Note, it was only the third week in, we only had 5 classes and we were all in masks. So I say, cut the man some slack. I hope Prof T is finding peace through this and sues the school. That could make up for the super expensive tuition we pay!!
Anthony • Dec 13, 2021 at 5:31 pm
This is everything so many of us have come to fear; the eggshells walked upon and the extra accommodation that is often given out of fear may not ever be enough if you can get canned for something like this. His email was precisely in response to that fear -the mis-ascription of an event that is like a scarlet R for many.
Also, I can tell you as I get older, it gets harder to get names right and once you get it wrong once, it sticks. That’s just a fact of life.
Gerald • Dec 13, 2021 at 3:49 pm
Bull shit that’s what it is
Michael Casey • Dec 13, 2021 at 10:32 am
I’m a high school teacher of 20+ years and every year I have mixed up my student names well into November. It’s a minor but annoying disability that occasionally ticks off my students. Now with masks, I get names wrong all the time.
To punish a teacher for such a disability (or simple mistake) is cruel and malicious. To do so at a Jesuit institution is a betrayal of every value Jesuits profess to believe. My dad went to Fordham and I’ve always touted the school to my students. But I hope the union nails them to the wall on this one.
BR • Dec 13, 2021 at 2:11 pm
something tells me there is more to the story.
ralph • Dec 13, 2021 at 9:07 am
If everyone whoever mispronounced my name either accidentally or purposely were fired there would be hundreds out of work.
Jim Leblanc • Dec 13, 2021 at 8:53 am
I would suggest that professors stop calling students by name, use their pronouns instead. But mis-pronoun someone and you may end up in jail. Crazy world.
The NPP • Dec 13, 2021 at 1:40 am
He has “face blindness” — it’s a real thing. They fired a disabled person for his disability.
I have face blindness — an extreme version. Sometimes I can’t even tell races apart. I would even be unable to ID my mother in a crowd of people unless I memorized what she was wearing that day.
He should sue the university for discrimination. He has face-blindess. A disability.
A.G. Phillbin • Dec 13, 2021 at 1:52 pm
Hmmmm… Face blindness. I’ve never heard of that, but it creates a new wrinkle. If he claims face blindness, will they retort that since “color blind racism” is a thing, “face blind racism” is also a thing?
Daisy • Dec 15, 2021 at 1:04 am
It is a thing. There’s a documentary or a book about it…The man with the hat or something. Can’t recall right now name of it..but a man or woman had it and identified spouse by a hat.
I’m not really thinking that was an added factor in this case though. The students were all wearing masks though which would add to not knowing names and faces. I’m sure that happens all the time anyway.
Peter Nescio • Dec 12, 2021 at 11:37 pm
The well-intentioned white boy panicked. Almost fifty and finally, finally, makes lecturer. So he laid it all out there. ‘I’m the least racist of all white people’. Then he gets fired for that. The bigger scandal is how all adjuncts at universities are treated as serfs by outrageously overpaid administrators ripping off the students, their parents, and the tax payers..
El Raton • Dec 12, 2021 at 10:41 pm
Here we go again with the criticism of “woke” folks and liberals. We do not know the entire story ok? Plus, this instructor (he is gay, by the way) is also a minority and part of a marginalized group… before you Right Wingers start lamenting how white straight males are being “cancelled”. Again, we don’t know the context, and whole story. He sent out some rambling email and purported to say the usual “I am not racist… I have done tons of stuff for minorities”. I mean… what? Who does that? It’s called White Savior treatment. We minorities don’t need to know what you have done for us. Just treat as equals without lording over us what you’ve done. It’s like the classic “I ain’t racist because I have black friends”. Well guess what; you can still hold racist views and resentment towards other minorities (even if you are part of a minority). More will come out on this case, I am quite sure.
2nd, one student was quoted as saying that he felt disrespected when he asked the professor to get his name right SEVERAL times; and appeared to not care or scoffed. Next you are going to say that if a person who identifies as female (but was born male) wants to be called a female pronoun in a classroom setting… that if you continually get it wrong, it’s ok? You can disagree with trans folks or trans ideology, but respect is respect. Just as you want your name, ethnicity (you know how many times I’ve been called Spanish by white folks? Get it freakin’ right… I am Puerto Rican, NOT Spanish. I speak Spanish!). It’s disrespectful in this day and age, and there is no excuse to be calling Asians “Oriental”… oh, but the Right will say “we are too sensitive”. No, it’s called respect. If that is what we prefer, then respect it!
Fordham purports to have an inclusive learning environment where people’s religions, names, ethnicities are to respected. The ones saying this is a classic case of a woke mob gone mad do not know the entire story, so get a grip.
Jay • Dec 13, 2021 at 4:47 am
Whites are a minority in most of the cities, and in many of them, do not have power in them – this they are marganalised minorities in those places. Detroit, Chicago, Baltimore, LA etc etc all have non white leadership through out.
Md • Dec 13, 2021 at 6:00 am
Growing up all Latinos from school called themselves Spanish & were called Spanish by others – it was no big deal & everyone understood it wasn’t a literal thing
Only a crybaby would be upset by that
ForReal? • Dec 13, 2021 at 6:37 am
You must be a joke, or the situation is more dire than I imagined.
Hb • Dec 13, 2021 at 6:59 am
He got a name wrong boo boo boo wah wah wah, woe is me! . The guys response was ridiculous but the universities stance in firing him is equally so. I would not want my child getting and education at a place that saddles them with 100K debt ant turns out overly sensitive overly entitles whiners. The place is rightly feeling the heat.
Malen • Dec 13, 2021 at 11:55 am
Aside from whatever actually happened in this situation–
Let’s just get this straight now: getting someone’s name right isn’t mandatory to giving them a good education. If someone keeps flubbing your name but otherwise runs a good class and gives your papers attentive feedback … then who cares? All this YOU MUST KNOW MY NAME stuff is bizarre. A professors has a hundred different students each semester. Getting your personal name wrong is not necessarily a “disrespectful” slight.
Also, the student who says they “felt disrespected” is using a pretty vague descriptor. How were they disrespected? Were they told to sit down and shut up? Were they chewed out in front of the entire class? Did the professor say, “Oh yeah, you’re the one with the weird name–why did your parents saddle you with such a dreadful moniker?” Or was it just a glance or an attitude? Such things are very subjective.
Which brings me to the final point: this student was showing up late to class. THAT is extremely disrespectful. If the professor seemed annoyed or inattentive … gee, maybe it’s because the student was crashing the classroom after class had begun, disrespecting not just the instructor but also every student in that room?? My reaction would have been, “You come in late and then get cranky because I forgot your name? Oh okay. I’ll try to remember your name and you can try to remember the time class starts.”
TheMule • Dec 13, 2021 at 5:07 pm
My intermediate analysis prof called half the class “bonehead” and the passing half “hey you.” It was annoying, but hardly worth firing the guy because he was really good at teaching math when you got past his abrasive personality.
polly • Dec 15, 2021 at 4:43 am
you are just another woke idiot.
My God • Dec 19, 2021 at 12:36 am
The minority of the whole planet has to carry the weight and complaints of everyone. You need to get a grip and realize just how easy you have it when everyone is bending over backwards for you.
Marc S • Dec 12, 2021 at 4:23 pm
With all due respect to the administration, what in the flying f***?
Lee A Thompson • Dec 12, 2021 at 2:00 pm
I remember when we went to college to learn and the reality is, few professors knew our names and we didn’t care. Rule no. 1, never apologize to the woke, it only makes it worse.
Michael Boiko • Dec 12, 2021 at 11:02 am
Just another example of Liberalism eating itself. Here you had a “woke” Professor finding out from the students and administration, he’s not nearly woke ENOUGH and getting canceled for it. All he had to say was… “Hey, I’m sorry I screwed up”…that’s all. This is a “mind cancer” and it’s only going to get MUCH worse…unless people stop this insanity. You can hate the Right all you want but sooner or later like it or not we have to be honest and admit the majority of these types of problems are coming from the Left.
ben • Dec 12, 2021 at 8:46 am
I don’t know if I missed something, but how did anyone outside of the class ever hear about the situation? According to this story, two students complained to Trogan about a name mix up. The two students are female and black. They told Trogan that they believed he mixed them up because they were both black women. Whether or not they made a full claim of racism, at a minimum they implied that basically he had less respect for black students. However, the anonymouse student later claimed that Trogan repeatedly got her name wrong, not specifically that he mixed her up with another black student.
So Trogan was in a situation where he probably felt like the floor was caving in on him. He had basically been accused of racism. Naturally, he had to respond to that. He chose to go full. If he hadn’t gone full one, would he really have been better? To not address a claim of him being racist? I don’t know.
The students who made the accusation claim it wasn’t that big a deal and that they did not report him. So why did they insinuate he is a racist? And who spread the situation beyond the classroom?
Unless this professor did something that has not been reported, this is pretty bizarre stuff.
I guess sometimes you can’t win once someone accuses you of something.
A.G. Phillbin • Dec 12, 2021 at 5:17 pm
Well, it looks like he reported himself. It started with emails from the 2 students in question. He could have just emailed them back, saying “sorry about the mixup.” Instead, he emailed his entire class, which makes it public., because, as the old saying goes, three people can keep a secret if two of them are dead. He didn’t do anything morally or legally wrong, just incredibly stupid. Why not just keep it between himself & his 2 students? This is what happens when “wokeness” eats your brain — you think you have to apologize to the world every time someone insinuates “racism” on your part. The rest was his further compounding his own stupidity, by sending a further 9 page email to his class. That said, Fordham had no business even disciplining him.
Giving up • Dec 12, 2021 at 5:16 am
“white savior complex.” Wtf do these people want? Damned if you do, damned if you don’t. Maybe he wrote a long-winded response because he saw the writing on the wall and knew he was doomed. This next generation is pathetic. Have you seen their customer service skills in action?? Atrocious!
Concerned • Dec 11, 2021 at 10:57 pm
As someone who works in higher education, I’m terrified that something like this could happen to me, especially because I am not that great with names in the first place. It’s really scary nowadays.
liam • Dec 11, 2021 at 7:58 pm
“i’ve devoted my entire life to issues of justice, equality, and inclusion. here’s a list of things i’ve done for minorities”
LOLOLOL Poor old sap.
Peette • Dec 12, 2021 at 9:48 am
Sounds like karma taught this simp a lesson
Stacia Street • Dec 11, 2021 at 6:53 pm
Thoroughly ridiculous. The end result will be that fewer qualified people want to teach at Fordham if this is how too many students and administrators behave. Did the students apologize for disrespecting the professor and their classmates by arriving late?
Jeffrey • Dec 13, 2021 at 10:04 am
Yeah right.
They’re allowed to be late now because they were oppressed 60 years ago.
Ameen Younis • Dec 11, 2021 at 5:48 pm
Absolutely dystopian. This is the type of thing you usually see at public universities where traditional morals and ethics have been replaced by social justice wokeism but it turns out even religious institutions don’t even have a moral shred left in them. Might as well toss the Bible out and teach Ibram Kendi instead.
Trogan wasn't that bad, to be honest • Dec 11, 2021 at 5:48 pm
I loved his class as a Freshman. I’m sorry to see him go. He apologized in the way he felt was right, but we also don’t have all the details. Hope he’s okay while all of this is happening.
Kristan • Dec 11, 2021 at 4:05 pm
This man was doomed. No question. All for a mistake. I hope the students who helped his demise come about remember this when they get in trouble at work with HR twenty years or so down the road. May I also remind people, sometimes people have trouble remembering names.
Dorothy Campbell • Dec 11, 2021 at 3:48 pm
There are always “three sides to every story”, as a former black educator, I often “mixed up student’s name,” (have you read or seen some of those names,) plus with the mask wearing doesn’t make identifying individuals any eadier. I must add that I frequently had to reprimand my black students for referring to each other as, “N” words. So let’s work at getting our facts straight.
Irene • Dec 11, 2021 at 11:42 pm
It seems as if his termination was not about the name mixup but the email he sent after the mixup, which was more intense than expected. The university asked him not to communicate with students past or present until a investigation concluded, he was being paid fully while said investigation was going on. The professor ignored that directive and continued to plead his name mixup case via email to students and advisers which prompted the firing. Whew that’s a lot to unpack. l don’t think this guy was a bad dude just unwilling to be silent while the university completed their due diligence. l hope he lands a better job and put this mess behind him.
Booker T. Washington • Dec 11, 2021 at 10:08 am
What a bunch of snowflakes…and what a joke of a “university” that is supposed to prepare students for the REAL world. The crying students remind me of the words of BT Washington: “There is another class of coloured people who make a business of keeping the troubles, the wrongs, and the hardships of the Negro race before the public. Having learned that they are able to make a living out of their troubles, they have grown into the settled habit of advertising their wrongs — partly because they want sympathy and partly because it pays. Some of these people do not want the Negro to lose his grievances, because they do not want to lose their jobs.”
Adrian • Dec 8, 2021 at 6:44 pm
I hope my comment isn’t censured again and the free speech is allowed for once. This is the beginning of black supremacy. They’re always looking for problems. Look at Dave Chappelle (for example) he’s not cancelled because he’s black even though he insults LGTBQ people.
james • Dec 6, 2021 at 1:55 pm
This is kinda really messed up. Dude is almost 70, and doesn’t have a salary or his health benefits. Jesuit university my ass.
james stop being stupid • Dec 11, 2021 at 5:37 pm
He’s def not 70, where in the article does he say he’s 70? He’s like AT MOST like 50, he *just* became a professor a while back
Daisy • Dec 15, 2021 at 12:18 am
Read he’s 45 or 46…now I CANT remember something exactly.
Malau • Dec 3, 2021 at 4:36 pm
Were the students in this class wearing masks? I assume this was an in-person class. It is astonishing that nobody cared to provide this crucial piece of information since it is basically about recognition…
Andrew • Dec 7, 2021 at 8:59 am
There are lots of situations to infer, not from the information given, but from the information missing. This incident happened pretty early in the semester so there would have to have some sort of history between the students and the professor prior. Maybe in previous semesters? More specifically, what were the grades of the two students in question? This is actually a big deal, because there could have been a grudge held and they may have wanted him fired. Not completely out of the realm of possibility, as matters like this have happened before. I’m not saying this is necessarily the case, but I’m not discounting it entirely…
Daisy • Dec 15, 2021 at 12:31 am
They were freshman. They came late At least one day, teacher explained.
Daisy • Dec 15, 2021 at 12:25 am
Yes. They were. Someone in one of his classes commented, here I think actually or it was in this article) That very crucial detail was left out of a few previous articles I read..when I read that here I thought..wow. That IS crucial…my boyfriend and were just saying sometimes we’ve not recognized our own friends when we’re out with the mask.
Bob • Dec 2, 2021 at 7:28 pm
“I’m Starsky, He’s Hutch.”
Uncle Sam • Dec 2, 2021 at 6:26 pm
The state of higher education in the 21st century is simply pathetic. The millennials and generation Z with their micro aggressions, triggers, etc. are absolutely pathetic. They are more concerned with pronoun usage than the chaos that swirls all around us here and abroad. Millennials are running colleges and universities so it is no wonder academia bows at the altar of wokeism. America should be eternally grateful this crowd was called to storm the beaches of Normandy or Iwo-Jima .
Pisser Dick • Dec 2, 2021 at 6:49 pm
What the hell are you talking about?
Juanjo • Dec 3, 2021 at 2:05 pm
Too bad you did not read the article prior to responding with an off-topic and off-kilter political screed.
Irene • Dec 11, 2021 at 11:46 pm
seems as if his termination was not about the name mixup but the email he sent after the mixup, which was more intense than expected. The university asked him not to communicate with students past or present until a investigation concluded, he was being paid fully while said investigation was going on. The professor ignored that directive and continued to plead his name mixup case via email to students and advisers which prompted the firing. Whew that’s a lot to unpack. l don’t think this guy was a bad dude just unwilling to be silent while the university completed their due diligence. l hope he lands a better job and put this mess behind him.
KMA • Dec 2, 2021 at 5:54 pm
“How much does it cost to attend?
Sticker Price
$76,891
Fee Cost
Tuition $52,980
Books and Supplies $1,039
Other Fees $1,413
Room and Board $18,510
Other Expenses Budget $2,949
Annual Prices
The annual list price to attend Fordham University on a full time basis for 2018/2019 is $76,891 for all students regardless of their residency. This fee is comprised of $52,980 for tuition, $18,510 room and board, $1,039 for books and supplies and $1,413 for other fees. Out of state tuition for Fordham University is $52,980, the same as New York residents.
All price data is sourced from the 2019/2020 U.S. Department of Education National Center for Education Statistics survey.”
[taken from
https://www.collegesimply.com/colleges/new-york/fordham-university/price/
I don’t care if a student’s parents can afford to send their little boys and girls to a private college. Big deal. But, as is so often the case, the student defaults on the loans required to attend, he/she should be punished…like any other fiscally irresponsible individual. The CRT and “woke” agenda is being pushed from kindergarten on up; Fordham just charges more than the average American can afford. It’s just another scam, dressed up as an “education.” The spoiled, indoctrinated little girls and boys will have a tough time making it a living, unless they find a position in academia.
Lee A Thompson • Dec 12, 2021 at 2:10 pm
Anf the journalism taught is really bad when the paper can’t get Eva’s title right. That’s worse than getting the names of students wrong.
CMO • Dec 2, 2021 at 3:58 pm
As a student in the actual class that the incident occurred in, these comments are so confusing. Did you read the article? Do you understand that Trogan was fired based off his insane response and not on his potentially racist action? Trogan was a nice teacher for the 5 classes that I had him for, but he never attempted to get to know me personally (in a 14 person class) and his memoir worthy responses sure didn’t make me any more fond of him. I don’t think he deserved to get fired, but his response to a small issue was what blew the entire thing up. At least understand the grounds of his termination before you go comparing a first year composition class to Nazi Germany <3
Andrew • Dec 2, 2021 at 4:47 pm
The two students who initially sent the email after class said that they believe the issue occurred because of their race. Were there previous instances of this sort of thing occurring. In other words can they definitely say his actions were race motivated? And subsequently, if you were in the professor’s shoes, how would you have handled it? Genuinely curious.
Laura • Dec 2, 2021 at 5:32 pm
Andrew, the way I would have handled it would have been to apologize to those two students, “sorry I got your names switched. Will try not to do that again.” I sure wouldn’t have spammed the entire class with a resume explaining what a cool and completely non-racist person I am.
Andrew • Dec 2, 2021 at 8:22 pm
That’s pretty reasonable. (And personally, that’s how I would have done it.) However, one cannot control the actions and reactions of others. Let’s say, he went about it that way. Would the students, who have claimed racism because their names have been spelled wrong, really accepted that apology? This is all hypothetical, as you probably know them more than I. They may very well have. In an academic setting, it’s very important that you cover all of your bases. Being proactive and initiating a dialogue I think would be preferable to the alternative. If Trogan had been less compassionate and more down to earth in his apology, some may have considered that response as him not taking the issue seriously enough. This could have very well been the case. If he is over emphatic, then he has a “white savior complex”. Again, I’m speaking from an outside observer looking inwards, but from my experiences in the field, empathy works both ways. I don’t know Trogan personally, nor his methods of teaching so I can’t speak for his character. Situations like this, I feel are sometimes made to be more delicate than they should be because of outside pressures.
Mickey • Dec 11, 2021 at 8:34 pm
Just watched John McWhorter talking with Marc L Hill explaining the very contradiction you describe above…that ant-racist dogma encourages all sorts of ‘damned if you do…’ situations for whites.
Sounds like Trogan was over the top effusive, and probably DOES suffer from ‘White Savior Complex’, as do most white progressives, who are CERTAINLY over-represented in the academy.
If he had been more terse and professional, he would be accused of not ‘centering the oppressive black lived experience of the students.’.
I was struck by the student claim above that “…he never attempted to get to know me personally.” Sheesh. I don’t remember a single professor I had at the undergrad level who ‘attempted to get to know me personally.’
That was not in the job description, and I was fine with that.
Irene • Dec 11, 2021 at 11:52 pm
That’s the whole point. No one will ever know if a sorry my bad would have ended this because the professor went off the deep end. The university requested that he not communicate with students past or present until they finished their investigation. He decided he wanted to ignore that request so they fired him for that. End of story. The firing wasn’t about the name mixup. It was because his said have seat and be quiet and he said nah. They well then your fired. Simple.
Craig F. • Dec 12, 2021 at 8:24 pm
Good points. As a counter, I’d argue that what you’re describing as “compassionate” and “over empathetic” I think was instead (reasonably) interpreted as “self-aggrandizing” and “paranoid”. It demonstrated a lack of judgement on the professor’s part to respond to what most would consider a small controversy/misunderstanding in such a manic way. Not to mention, mass-emailing both sections of your class about the issue — even without naming names — puts an uncomfortable spotlight on the students who complained and injects unnecessary meta-drama into the learning environment. In other words, my read of the situation is that he got axed for being clearly unable to maintain his composure and professionalism.
“Depending on your response to the officials above, I may — or may not — be your professor in class next week. It’s all up to you,” he said as part of his 9-page email (according to the article). To me, that’s a pretty manipulative and immature thing for an instructor to put out there. Being able to navigate conflicts with students gracefully is part of the role, and this instructor definitely failed to do that.
Andrew • Dec 3, 2021 at 5:18 am
Correction: And by spelled wrong, I meant to say misnomered.. My apologies.
E.M. • Dec 4, 2021 at 8:53 am
Flip the races… I’d like hear your response. Seriously, I’m curious.
John • Dec 2, 2021 at 5:01 pm
Why do you think his apology was excessive?
White professors are so afraid of being fired by their white bosses because the white bosses are so afraid of being called “white devils” by black students.
Lux • Dec 2, 2021 at 9:58 pm
I realize that whatever knuckle-drag red-stater site linked you to this article told you that he was fired for mixing up two black students’ names. But if you’d actually read the article, you’d see that’s not true–he got fired for sending an inappropriate nine-page TMI woe-is-me screed to the class about a matter that concerned only two students. That’s probably a privacy violation. It’s also unprofessional and unrelated to his actual job responsibilities.
He seems unstable. His colleague says he’s a crap teacher with a record of flying off the handle and saying bizarre crap. Also, he doesn’t seem too bright. He shouldn’t be teaching anywhere.
People mix up students’ names all the time and don’t get fired. If all it took to get fired was flubbing the names of minority students, then professors would be packing their offices on the daily.
In other words, read the article before making a fool of yourself.
Tony • Dec 4, 2021 at 10:57 pm
Geez we created a culture with a hyperfocus on race, with ultra high stakes (severe career/social consequences and financial ramifications), and you’re surprised, sarcastic, and dripping with condescension as one person just happened to go overboard in defending themselves? Who could have seen this coming!
You aided and abetted this paranoid atmosphere to being with, your tone and attitude makes that quite clear, you and your clique are the arbiters of appropriate discourse surrounding race, this professors response didn’t please you, so he’s gone.
Malen • Dec 7, 2021 at 11:00 am
He was fired precisely because he turned the class’s atmosphere into one revolving solely around race in ways that were inappropriate and in violation of course expectations. HE’S the one who made it about race–not the students. Isn’t that what you and your “type” want–someone to be fired for making things too much about race?
But no, you decided to make this about “woke-ism” rather than what it was actually about–a professor careening wildly off course and derailing the class entirely because he got his feelings hurt. Why are you identifying with this snowflake?
VoX • Dec 11, 2021 at 2:34 pm
“Knuckle-drag red-stater”, its precisely comments and people like you that are going to get far right authoritarian people elected. Remember how well the deplorables comment went over. You already lost the SCOTUS for a generation to come and now the woke left is losing public opinion by denigrating others.
I • Dec 11, 2021 at 11:59 pm
I’m so confused. The firing was about race. You agree that it shouldn’t be another poster agree that it shouldn’t be. He got fired because they asked him to stop sending emails containing his pov and he didn’t stop so they fired him for it. That’s it race was a non-issue
RichieK • Dec 12, 2021 at 7:46 am
You’re right. You should never say things like “knuckle-drag red stater” or “deplorable” out loud…..even though those terms are a perfect description of many far right people.
Musa • Dec 12, 2021 at 11:19 am
Wow, conservative knuckle-draggers sure are delicate little snowflakes. You can dish it out but you can’t take it. Someone calls you a name and you threaten to ruin the country. Maybe try sucking it up and acting like an adult instead of throwing a tantrum. You want to stop being called a deplorable? Then stop acting like one.
Good luck • Dec 12, 2021 at 1:19 pm
Pretty sure you and your ilk would vote the way you do even if the “woke left” was sweet as pie to you. Because it’s not about manners with you–it’s about stupidity, racism, and resentment.
Sure, you’ve managed to alter SCOTUS for “a generation”–but whom do you think that’s really going to hurt? Those of us in the financial centers of the country–those of us who make enough to subsidize those of you from the red states, by the way–will probably be fine. You, on the other hand, keep voting against your own economic interests, choosing to give tax cuts to your wealthy bosses while you dream of the day when they magically reopen the coalmines and factories for you (not happening).
When you vote for far-right authoritarian leaders, you screw yourselves most of all. So good luck with that.
A.G. Phillbin • Dec 12, 2021 at 5:40 pm
And you don’t think firing him, given the current social atmosphere, is more than a trifle excessive? Granted, he rather stupidly and clumsily over-defended himself by initially emailing not just the 2 students, but the whole class, and later compounded his error with that 9 page email. His problem is that he took all this “woke” nonsense far too seriously. His 2 students were still jackasses for assuming his mistake was “racial,” and he tried to preempt something the students in question weren’t even contemplating. He panicked, because accusations of “racism” are too easily bandied about, and too easily taken seriously by liberal administrators, who are also frightened of potential lawsuits.
Lux • Dec 2, 2021 at 8:05 pm
Why do you think any professor is obligated to get to know you personally? Your class of 14 isn’t the only one he had. I agree that he acted unprofessionally here–in an extreme way. But I always think it’s so odd that students think their professors should take the time to be interested in them as unique and special individuals. Being a professor is just a job like any other. Professors aren’t there to be your friends.
I • Dec 12, 2021 at 12:05 am
Agree but l mean the students are paying a ton of money for their salaries. I have to admit when l went back to school as an adult l held my professors to a higher level, I’m paying you to teach me so l’m going to get my money’s worth. You will all know my name, l will ask for a gross amount of help because ultimately l’m paying you for a service and my expectations is to be serviced.. well
I don't care about your name • Dec 12, 2021 at 12:53 pm
Lol, are you ever misinformed. Adjuncts and lecturers like Trogan usually make around $5,000 per class. In fact, the average salary for an adjunct professor at Fordham is around $10,000 PER YEAR. https://www.glassdoor.com/Salary/Fordham-University-Adjunct-Professor-Salaries-E5323_D_KO19,36.htm
At that wage, you’re lucky a professor learns your name at all, let alone in the first two weeks. Your tuition dollars aren’t going to professors’ salaries, don’t be ridiculous.
You’re also misinformed about the true nature of what a university is or does.. It’s not Amazon; it’s a nonprofit. You are not paying professors in exchange for an education. (If you want to pay someone to educate you personally, then hire a private tutor.) You’re paying to attend a university, which is trying to provide an education for thousands of students, not just you. This university then turns around and pays the professors a (rather paltry) wage. University education, despite its steep price, is still considered a public good, not a product you bought at Walmart.
It’s true that tuition is ballooning ridiculously. But this has nothing to do with faculty salaries. Faculty salaries are deliberately kept very low. So if bring
the “I’m paying your salary, so do what I say because the customer is always right!” attitude to class, you’re lucky the professor doesn’t just laugh at you and walk off the job.
If you have problems with the amount of tuition you’re required to pay in exchange for lackluster education, then direct your wrath at the university at large, which controls instructor pay. YOU don’t control instructor pay, and you don’t pay instructor salaries.
Malen • Dec 12, 2021 at 3:22 pm
This might come as a surprise, but no, your tuition money is not magically deposited into your instructor’s bank account. You are not paying him or her for a service the way you pay a plumber. Moreover, Fordham instructors don’t make “salaries,” they are paid some of the lowest wages in the NYC area: https://fordhamram.com/2017/04/12/a-further-look-into-adjuct-wages/
I hope we can agree that universities need to pay professors more than $16,400 per year in order for you to be “serviced well.” $16k in NYC is barely worth getting out of bed for in the morning, let alone learning your precious little name!
Why professors don’t just walk off the job, I haven’t a clue. It’s what I did. After making $30,000 a year as a full-time lecturer to put up with students who thought I should be available 24/7 (“why don’t you give me your cell number? why didn’t you answer the email I sent at 11:45 last night?!!!”), I quit. Now I make a lot more money … for much less work.
I suggest Trogan do the same, as well as the other low-paid and exploited instructors in the NYC area.
Professors work much harder than people in the private sector can even dream of. On very low wages, they manage up to 100 students a semester while keeping up their own research. And when I taught, non-traditional students were the most demanding and entitled, oftentimes displaying the attitude of the poster above. They believed that it was my duty to be “at their service”–their personal live-in nanny/trouble-shooter 24/7. No matter how many times I explained, “I don’t work for you, you don’t pay my salary, and I make a shameful amount of money anyway,” they did not get it. Tbh, Gen-Z was a lot easier to work with than the older crowd. A lot less entitled, anyway.
Professor JC • Dec 12, 2021 at 8:53 pm
Nope. I will not necessarily “know your name,” because that’s not part of my contract with the university. I am paid a pre-determined amount of money to hold a certain number of contact hours with students. That contract entitles you to class time, my office hours, and the time I spend prepping for class and grading papers. Not a minute more because I don’t work for free. Do you?
If you want someone to give you a “gross amount of help” that goes beyond the contract they have with the university, hire a private tutor? Or, for help with the name thing, maybe a therapist.
Jackson G • Dec 11, 2021 at 8:43 pm
Did you try to get to know him? The professor is not going to seek out the students. You ae an adult now, believe it or not. Even if your mommy raised you to be a child your ENTIRE life. So if you need one on one help from a professor, it is YOUR duty to seek it out. 14 person class? well, he probably has several classes. So over 100 students. You, on the other hand have maybe 5 professors.
Jeff Happ • Dec 12, 2021 at 11:51 pm
You are a fine moron, the real world will not treat you well
Class of ‘99 • Dec 2, 2021 at 3:45 pm
Mouthy snowflake prof throws a hissy fit when his employer finally had enough of his martyr complex, and the outage brigade reliably flocks to the comments section to lap it right up.
Imagine being so offended by a private issue that you yourself trumpet it to the world instead of resolving it privately — and then play the victim when there are consequences. That’s how egomaniacs handle problems.
Try some humility, Professor. If these comments are any indicator, you’re getting sympathy from the wrong crowd.
Caroline • Dec 8, 2021 at 6:38 pm
I just think that black supremacists are always looking for problems
A.G. Phillbin • Dec 12, 2021 at 5:44 pm
Okay, so he’s socially rather clueless. Is that really a new thing with professors? Given the social atmosphere around race issues, his panicked behavior is understandable, although his taking this issue public to the whole class is still egregious. There needed to be a penalty well short of firing, but more than a slap on the wrist.
David • Dec 2, 2021 at 3:16 pm
CANCELLED
Patriot without a Party • Dec 2, 2021 at 3:14 pm
What a Bunch of Babies…..All involved are JUST CHILDREN PLAYING IN the Adults World…….Go back to Your Parents basement You’ll be Safe from the EVIL World that can’t get your Name Right??
Don’t forget to bring your Diapers, Little Babies……If Teacher can’t remember your Name? He sure as Hell won’t change your Poopy Diapers for you either, YOU BIG BABY?
Mrs Unicorn • Dec 2, 2021 at 2:36 pm
The questions remaining are only being added to by this badly written article.
Mr Pegasus • Dec 2, 2021 at 3:00 pm
um for someone who is critiquing the work of a journalist, that sentence made no sense
Sam Tails • Dec 12, 2021 at 3:15 pm
Um, that sentence made sense to those of us who can read and comprehend.
Gute • Dec 2, 2021 at 1:46 pm
Who cares. Sounds like everyone involved is a pu$$y.
Anne • Dec 2, 2021 at 3:24 pm
wow you must be so fun at parties
Ryan • Dec 2, 2021 at 1:10 pm
Woke meets woke. I have no sympathy for teachers who make a living pushing this crap only to find themselves on the receiving end of it.
Christine • Dec 2, 2021 at 1:08 pm
A pathetic state of affairs. It is too much to hope that the Cultural Revolution in China, or any other totalitarian ideology and regime, is studied at Fordham. We are currently going through the same process as that of China with struggle sessions, student warriors, and ‘Down with the Four Olds’. Just missing the dunce caps.
-another embarrassed alumni
Joe • Dec 2, 2021 at 1:01 pm
I don’t know how large this class was, but if it was small, it sucks that the professor didn’t build a relationship with students individually. If it was large, this is total nonsense.
I’ve lost faith in academia and gen-Z, but Chantel Sims gave me a bit of hope. Nothing offensive was said. Clearly Chantel is bright and hasn’t been programmed by the crazies in academia. Good for her for not hiding her name. I think she has a bright future.
sfcmac • Dec 2, 2021 at 12:55 pm
Oh my, the triggered little social justice warrior really struck a blow for speaking ‘troof ta powa’. Just wait until that ‘anonymous’ snowflake gets out into the world after college. There’s a shitload of reality out here that will keep him running for a safe spacce.
Robert • Dec 2, 2021 at 12:53 pm
Always nice to see the left eat one of their own.
Dorian • Dec 11, 2021 at 2:40 pm
It may make you feel good to dash off something like this but you are really off base. Trogan is not a left-winger. He doesn’t discriminate on students according to their political affiliations and has incorporated conservative authors into his classes. Anyone who has been around him would not be able to guess his politics. That is how professors are supposed to hold themselves in a university setting—or at least it was the way up until a few years ago. Trogan has been targeted because his neutrality made him suspect to the woke.
You should retract what you have written. It really is often we conservatives who have been eating our own. You should support academic freedom not empower the fink administrators who are more interested in virtue pointing that education.
BH • Dec 2, 2021 at 12:49 pm
This was a race based decision. Swapping the races if this involved would not have resulted in the same outcome, regardless of intent of the action. That is discrimination based on skin color. That is a rule set that varies with skin color. It is evidence of institutional racism, but the exact opposite of what is inferred by racial justice proponents. Racial justice requires rules and laws that are blind to race. That has to be the goal or there will always be racism. There will always be division.
David C • Dec 2, 2021 at 12:40 pm
In the end, it seems likely he got fired not so much for mixing up names but for his inappropriate, overblown response to the situation. He literally invited trouble, and should not be surprised that trouble came. Anybody working in organized education should know from the start that they must never veer from the narrow, approved scripts and customs. This is true in all jobs, of course, but probably in a more nuanced way in the skoolz than in most contexts. Deviation from the norms, both spoken and unspoken, is dealt with swiftly and firmly in academic settings.
John • Dec 2, 2021 at 5:09 pm
David, if the professor did not respond excessively, he would be accused of not taking the issue seriously.
Corporations, universities, etc., are afraid of black protestors because whites have not stood up against the black protesters.
If whites stopped supporting ‘black lives matter’ propaganda, then white corporations and universities would stop being afraid of black protesters.
Exactly • Dec 2, 2021 at 7:51 pm
The reason why he responded the way he did was to overcompensate to cover his bases. If he’s compassionate about his apology, he has a “white savior complex”, if he’s not emphatic enough, he’s looked at as dismissive with “white supremacist” tendencies. There really is no getting out of it. If a student of color complains about racism, the professor is screwed no matter how they respond. Innocent until proven guilty does not hold up in a court of public opinion unfortunately.
I • Dec 12, 2021 at 12:11 am
We’ll never know because he took rage against my employer stance instead of the. Let’s see how this plays out calmly route.
Raylan • Dec 2, 2021 at 12:18 pm
Fire all the teachers until the students teach themselves. That will certainly increase the number of registered Democrats.
well that is ridiculous • Dec 2, 2021 at 12:13 pm
Please be advised Fordham that your alumni are not pleased with stupidity such as this and as such my contributions to the school have ceased.
-embarrassed Alumni
Tk • Dec 12, 2021 at 11:14 am
Considering that you are only speaking for yourself and are using the plural form, I can only imagine that your threat rings incredibly hollow. The singular is alumnus, the plural is alumni.
Prince of Poyas • Dec 2, 2021 at 11:46 am
Woke professor gets fired for something people do accidentally every day. Very doubtful he meant any harm or disrespect. Brat students learn to pitch a fit over anything the don’t like to get their way. Try this in the real world, not a woke job, they’ll be shown the door. Poor parenting. There should have been some discipline, respect and understanding instilled around the age 2 and this would never have happened.
Laura • Dec 2, 2021 at 5:37 pm
Looks to me like he was fired for sending out 9-page letters to the students about how he was being persecuted even though he was a fine, upstanding, non-racist person. People do in fact not do this accidentally and certainly not every day.
Student • Dec 11, 2021 at 4:50 pm
No one accidentally sends 9 page ranting emails on any day.
Fjb • Dec 2, 2021 at 11:30 am
Libtards are just that. Tards.
Leeda javaheri • Dec 2, 2021 at 9:18 am
I’m a fordham alumni and I remember this professor and how he literally tried to give me an unjustified failing mark.. I appealed and fortunately the Dean at the time agreed with me and receded his grade. I still remember the look of shock on his face and those cheesy French connection sweaters he always wore… karma is indeed lovely! It feels alittle good & justified because 10 + yrs ago he tried to destroy my life !
Ms. Read the actual article • Dec 2, 2021 at 3:21 pm
He literally started recently… did you read the article before you decided to lie? It says it there, plain as day.
Rob • Dec 3, 2021 at 12:20 am
I echo the reply to your fake comment. The guy had only been teaching for eight courses prior to his one-year lectureship. So your “10+ years ago” is a total fabrication. And “French Connection sweaters”? Really, if you know that movie, you’re at least as old as I am.
Malen • Dec 8, 2021 at 10:30 am
Check the internet. He’s been teaching on and off at Fordham since 2003.
Nevaeh Sharice • Dec 2, 2021 at 1:36 am
I for one am thankful that this person has been terminated and wiped from our campus. A safer campus for all students, especially marginalized students who face distress and hardship as a result of microaggressions and name othering such as this. This is the work we vowed to do when we promised to take a stand with students of color, regardless of the circumstances, details, or facts.
All professors, tenured or not, really need to take note of what happened here. You have to demonstrate respect and sensitivity to marginalized persons in every way, especially marginalized persons who faced mistreatment all their lives over their names. I do hope that this person can never be hired again in academia, we do not need that kind of foolishness going on in the classroom.
I am proud of these two brave students for bringing these injustices and behavior to the light of day. Fight on!
Robert • Dec 2, 2021 at 1:00 pm
I do enjoy the left eating their own but this comment is hilarious and goes to show just how much of an alternate reality exists on college campuses. The comment was just a collection of catch phrases that mean whatever the person saying it want it to mean at the time, nothing objective at all, just subjective emotion. Getting a name wrong = injustice, you people are clowns.
Joe • Dec 2, 2021 at 1:48 pm
That’s how the Nazis spoke of the Jews. Do you kids even realize that you are adopting hardcore Nazi ideology. You seem to love censorship and destroying people.
Andrew • Dec 2, 2021 at 2:58 pm
“You have to demonstrate respect and sensitivity to marginalized persons in every way, especially marginalized persons who faces mistreatment all their lives over their names”.
And by emailing the class to address the incident, that’s exactly what this professor was doing. Empathy isn’t a one way street. While I’m not ignoring the prejudices that students of color have faced and continue to face, the fact still remains that everyone by themselves are still individuals, with different circumstances. Identity politics is a slippery slope. Making broad strokes about individuals based on their demographic can go both ways.
I ask that you put yourself into the shoes of the professor for a moment. What would you have done in this circumstance?
John • Dec 2, 2021 at 5:14 pm
Would you please stop using your BS buzzwords, “marginalized” and “micro-aggressions.”
Please shut the hell up!
joe • Dec 4, 2021 at 8:53 pm
This was an attempt at sarcasm. A sort of clumsy one, not as well-honed as it might have been. a tad too dry, and thus hard to get a purchase on. tone was off a bit too much to be obvious, but: “take a stand with students of color, *regardless of the circumstances, details or FACTS* (emphasis mine) demonstrates that Heaven (Oops, sorry–got your name backwards, forgive the microagg there…) –er, Nevaeh, has tongue planted firmly in cheek when railing against the listed “injustices.” Read it again and see how it seems to mimic, rather than echo, the absurd, self-righteous posturings heard elsewhere in Wokelandia. If I’m wrong, and Nevaeh is sincere, like so many mills and others are these days in their heat-seeking missile insistence on finding and cancelling any number of “isms” in any number of everyday moments by any number of decent-enough folks, then, yes, Heaven help us. Or, better, don’t.
Nura • Dec 11, 2021 at 9:25 pm
Just to be sure – this is a parody reply, right? Right!?
Jeff • Dec 12, 2021 at 11:56 pm
You are a total moron, you have no change to succeed in life, you will have a rude awakening when you get to the real world
Michael Casey • Dec 13, 2021 at 10:44 am
I am a teacher who mixes up the names of white students all year long. It’s a disability, albeit a minor one. You seem to lack even the most basic human regard for people with disabilities- marginalized people, that is- but that is why we have unions, so cruel bigots can’t just wipe us away from campus.
DL • Dec 1, 2021 at 9:57 pm
Eva Badowska terminates a teacher for this meanwhile Mohammad Obaidat is still speaking at international conferences as the Chair of Computer and Information Science despite being accused of an alleged assault against an employee in 2016.
Dorian • Dec 11, 2021 at 2:52 pm
Every student at Fordham should write the administration and demand the immediate dismissal of Madame Badowska. Her handling of this matter shows she has absolutely zero interest in the welfare of Fordham students or in academic freedom. Her only concern was that this issue would make her look bad. Instead of thoroughly investigating this matter and trying to find a way to reconcile the parties she affixed a target to the muzzle of her shotgun and fired. An extremely qualified and talented professor was jettisoned so she could virtue point. A person of such little moral substance like Badowska does not belong in higher education.
Paul Mitchell • Dec 1, 2021 at 4:53 am
If someone getting their name wrong (even if it was intentional) is thier complaint, that is the epitome of a pampered child. This new rush to embrace the concept of mico-agression is destructive and divisive.
Liz • Dec 1, 2021 at 3:09 pm
Please don’t reduce his behavior to that or dismiss the importance of having standards and holding people accountable. However, that’s what people like to do when they are Ill-equipped to have a discussion on micro’agressions and want to dismiss adult behavior as simple human error rather than the intentionally disrespectful, rude, ignorant, and culturally insenstive and passively aggressive behavior it was.
DARRYL E FOX • Dec 2, 2021 at 2:52 am
CRAP
Andrew • Dec 2, 2021 at 3:53 am
But how small does a micro aggression need to be before it’s misinterpreted? If Trogan hadn’t responded to the incident, what would’ve happened? The student calling him out initially
said it was due to race, and then they say “all he had to do was apologize”. So do you then say sorry without acknowledging race? If so, he would’ve been fired for not apologizing the correct way, which happened anyway! The Dean’s rash response to his mistake suggests that he would be damned either way. You’re talking about holding people accountable. This requires communication and empathy. We’re all human and make errors from time to time. His email was intended to be a proactive initiative to de-escalate a situation, but instead, he gets fired because of it. Do you honestly think the Dean fired him for holding him accountable, or for protecting their own job? If the latter, then maybe the strength of their conviction should be questioned. The excruciating minutia of every single misinterpreted action from the masses creates an environment of hostility and mistrust. What you call holding people accountable in this case, I call blind vilification. Respectfully, I believe people like yourself should think inwardly and introspectively re-evaluate their knee jerk reactionary responses into more thought out lines of civil discourse, instead of empty virtue signaling. I’m more than willing to engage you with civility and look forward to our continued discussion on this. We all come from different backgrounds and have different experiences which shape our points of view and I would love to hear yours.
Dave • Dec 2, 2021 at 6:04 am
While I respect that you have an opinion, I don’t personally agree with it. Fired over a first offense, and I respectfully use that term lightly? Have you ever received a traffic violation? Was your license taken away permanently? If not, why not? While the social impact of racism and driving irresponsibly are not in the same class, there still exists acceptance of people who break traffic laws. What about a kid who shoplifts? Using your logic, we should lock them up for life which of course if ludicrous.
In this country, you are innocent until proven guilty and have the right to face your accuser. He was denied that opportunity and will be hard-pressed to find a job as a result of this incident and that’s a shame.
Tiger Wedgewood • Dec 2, 2021 at 11:20 am
You can’t be serious. Have you never mistakenly called someone by another persons name? There’s nothing racist or disrespectful about doing that. Grow up.
Jumanji Jones • Dec 2, 2021 at 11:27 am
Shush snowflake.
Donna • Dec 2, 2021 at 11:34 am
Micro aggression? Really? Do you have any idea that this happens to white, in fact, all races of people, all the time? It is ridiculous to assume this is a micro aggression. My professors never called anyone by name, thus avoiding the problem of trying to remember hundreds of names each semester. I don’t know what race you are, but I’m here to tell you white people often can’t always differentiate one white person from another if they look similar, even if they see them frequently. And forget remembering peoples names, unless you have a great memory.
John • Dec 2, 2021 at 11:46 am
You are the problem, Liz.
Stacia Street • Dec 11, 2021 at 7:06 pm
You mean like walking into a class late to disrupt the prof and the other students’ education?
THAT kind of intentionally disrespectful, rude, ignorant, culturally insensitive, and passive aggressive behavior?
Jackson H • Dec 11, 2021 at 8:45 pm
Holding people accountable? so I guess you are against bail reform and super short prison sentences for criminals? Or are you a hypocrite?
Jack • Nov 30, 2021 at 5:21 pm
Sounds like a case of both the Fordham administration and student jumping the gun and immediately believing Professor Trogan is some sort of white supremacist. People make mistakes and deserve second chances. Firing someone over something as small as a name mix-up or subjective wording in an email reeks of excess wokeism.
Liz • Dec 1, 2021 at 7:31 am
Everybody must be held accountable for their actions. The passive aggressive behaviors people exhibit is intolerable and sending a strong message is required to dismantle this excused behavior. I have a family member who is there and speaks of this type of behaviors some instructors exhibit at FU Lincoln Ctr. Their dismissiveness, smug comments, and repeated empty apologizes are all unacceptable. Great job FU of holding people accountable for their actions. More Universities and organizations need to follow.
DJT • Dec 1, 2021 at 12:34 pm
Baby want a bottle. You will be a nightmare for your future employers.
Liz • Dec 2, 2021 at 7:27 am
Just like that…a great example of the behavior FU stands up against appears. Thank you.
Jumanji Jones • Dec 2, 2021 at 11:29 am
You assume she isn’t on the taxpayer’s teat and always will be.
JDana • Dec 2, 2021 at 12:21 pm
Gosh, what a cluster…. what is WRONG with students today??? This is not “passive aggressive” nor is it a micro-aggression. It’s a mistake, plain and simple. Since when did college become such a Petri dish of hurt feelings, low self-esteem, and hatred toward anyone who doesn’t agree with their ideas? Sure, the professor’s mass email seems a bit over the top, but it sounds like he was responding to an environment where faculty are walking on eggshells because of the intolerance and entitled egos of sheltered students who think they can “complain” their way to success. GROW UP.
Fatty • Dec 2, 2021 at 1:53 am
I feel so bad for your pathetic mind.
Anon • Dec 2, 2021 at 6:03 am
Not correcting the teacher who called the people by the wrong name is a passive aggressive behavior. If someone called you by the wrong name and you don’t correct them then you are passive aggressive. Further, the actions to terminate clearly gives teachers the ability to never call a person by their name for concern of termination. Just put a number on each desk and call the desk number.
don eagle • Dec 2, 2021 at 9:31 am
apparently tis professor had 80 current students. have you ever been in a class of that size? maybe they were split into 4 classes of 20 each. have you ever simultaneously been in multiple classes of 20 each? if so, could you state for the record that you could confidently remember the names of each classmate? professors routinely deal with large numbers of people at the same time, who are constantly in flux: there for one semester and then never seen again. easy to get confused. i am retired now, but never was able to call by name all of the 100 or so i worked with regularly, and in my capacity as an adjunct professor at several universities simultaneously, neither was ii able to remember the names of all the staff or other faculty, other than those i was most often in contact with.
i joined the army in 1972, got out in 1975, and let me make a suggestion based on that experience. make name tags worn on the outside of students’ clothing mandatory for all. your mommy can sew them on for you.
Rob • Dec 2, 2021 at 11:34 am
Are you serious? Wow, grow up, so easily offended. Let’s label things we dislike and offended by as micro aggressions or passive aggression. I am upset at your passively aggressive accusation of what others are thinking. I was made fun of growing up it made me tougher skinned and able to handle future problems, grow up. This world is becoming a bunch of babies. The louder I whine the more they’ll give in.
Raylan • Dec 2, 2021 at 12:20 pm
You are the problem Liz. Look for solutions, like making the trivial things trivial again.
Victor • Dec 2, 2021 at 12:22 pm
What’s needed here, Liz, is mental health evaluations for you, the students and the university administration that allows this crap.
I have no sympathy for the professor either. He has been part of the leftist, now woke, takeover of education.
And oh by the way, you’re an idiot.
Let’s go Brandon!
Dorian • Dec 11, 2021 at 2:59 pm
I like the beginning of your comment but you go awry when you call this guy a leftist. He isn’t. He is the type of professor who doesn’t give away his politics in class—which is how professors should act. You need to be clear about something: the left are targeting moderates and the unaffiliated. It is like the Committee of Public Safety in the French Revolution. Or Mao at Yenan. Trogan is a centrist. He was just trying to defend himself against the mob in that 9-page letter.
Peter • Dec 2, 2021 at 12:32 pm
To be clear: your argument is that you have a family member at the school who’s encountered OTHER rude instructors and therefore THIS instructor must be racist? That’s even shoddier thinking than your claim in your other comment that you somehow know for sure that the name mix up was “INTENTIONALLY disrespectful, rude, ignorant” and passive aggressive. Sometimes people really do make simple mistakes; you, for example, have made the mistake of posting two dismissive, smug, and ignorant comments that make assumptions based on literally nothing. Are you sure you aren’t Dean Badowska?
ur mom • Dec 2, 2021 at 4:55 pm
But this was intentional. Did you not read the article at all? These students weren’t called by their names repeatedly, and the teacher did nothing in order to correct his behavior. Now that he finally apologizes FOR his passive aggressive AND rude behavior, he decides to include things that he has done for minorities throughout his lifetime? As if he’s trying to prove to students that there were times when he didn’t exhibit such dismissive behaviors. Sometimes people do really make mistakes, I agree with that, but every class? That’s not okay. You’ve clearly made mistakes, like posting this comment before fully understanding the article and comprehending the comment you were so quick to attack. Are you sure you aren’t professor Trogan?
J • Dec 11, 2021 at 4:39 pm
You actually don’t know that for sure. I saw what you’re talking about, and it made me think of a situation I was in once, when my boss absolutely never got my name right for over a year that I worked with him. I guess I won’t go into too many details but he must’ve been told at least a dozen times by different people (I quit reminding him after the first two times lol) but he never did get it right. He did this to one other person too. I think some people are just a little scatterbrained when it comes to names. He was a nice guy though, and I did not take it personally. But let’s say he had been doing it intentionally, it wasn’t hurting me Physically emotionally or mentally. I didn’t think about it outside work. I certainly wouldn’t have somebody fired over something like that especially if I didn’t know for sure if they were doing it on purpose. If I had a real problem with this, and it was really bothering me, I would have talked to him about it face-to-face in person. I say face to face, because I think people are losing their communication skills nowadays, with all this texting and emailing it’s very easy to misunderstand people and take offense to things. I think things like this incident and these comments are perfect examples of this.
Jackson H. • Dec 11, 2021 at 8:46 pm
You are wrong on just about every point, but thanks for trying.